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'Decision' missing as Schema type? #3404
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I suppose this type would inherit from CreativeWork? What additional field would it have? |
Hi Matthias! Thanks for responding. You're right that a The Legislation type has several legislation-specific properties such as:
Similarly, a Decision type could decision-specific properties such as:
Most relevant general properties from the Thing and CreativeWork types:
Relevant text properties from the CreativeWork type:
Relevant IP properties from the CreativeWork type:
Other relevant fields from the Thing and CreativeWork types:
Metadata examples:
In general, a |
Would it make sense to have a common ancestor to both Legislation and Decision? Generally, there are many redundant fields, |
I agree that decisionDatePublished is actually redundant and can easily be replaced by CreativeWork's datePublished. However, temporalCoverage doesn't exactly cover a precise decisionDate. Furthermore, I wouldn't mix legislation and decisions under a common legislationIdentifier as these are fundamentally different document types. |
I have several ideas related to this issue. Please note that I am located in the U.S., so the following suggestions may not apply to the markup of, or reference to, the legal documents of other jurisdictions. I agree wholeheartedly that there needs to be a Most judicial decisions are published in bound volumes called "reporters." Because decisions are published in bound volumes, the For example, opinions of the U.S. Supreme Court are published in no fewer than three different reporters: (1) the United States Reports (this is the official reporter, and abbreviated "U.S."); (2) the Supreme Court Reporter (commercial reporter published by Westlaw, and abbreviated "S. Ct."); and (3) United States Supreme Court Reports, Lawyers' Edition 2d (commercial reporter published by LexisNexis, and abbreviated "L. Ed. 2d"). The anatomy of a case citation consists of the following elements, in order: (1) case name; (2) volume number of the bound volume in which the decision appears; (3) reporter abbreviation; (4) first page of the decision; (4.5) the specific page or page range of the decision being referenced, if so referenced (these are called "pinpoint citations" or "pincites"); and (5) year of the decision. An example of a citation without pincites is: McNeill v. United States, 563 U.S. 816, 131 S. Ct. 2218, 180 L. Ed. 2d 35 (2011). With pincites, the citation might read: McNeill v. United States, 563 U.S. 816, 820, 131 S. Ct. 2218, 2221-2222, 180 L. Ed. 2d 35, 36 (2011). (Note the page range used for the S. Ct. citation. Because each bound volume is paginated differently, it is possible that the cited content that appears on a single page in one reporter could appear on multiple pages in another reporter. ) The peculiar thing about legal citations, is the foregoing citation is considered a single citation, even though it technically contains citations to three different books containing a printed version of the decision. The For the
For the
Using the citation containing pincites above, here is what I think an example citation might look like:
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@MaxwellDAnderson while your suggestion might suit the needs of common law jurisdictions, it is not suitable as a global standard. For example, it doesn't account for the differing needs of the many civil law or other jurisdictions which may not (so heavily) rely on reporters. Instead of overfitting a Decision type on common law requirements, I think the focus should be on common standard-setting! Therefore, I believe it would be better to see how a Decision type could meet more general requirements. Maybe it would be good to refer to the European Legislation Identifier program and its implementation in Schema.org for inspiration? |
@romjansen I understand your issue to be merely with the word "reporter." I interpret your lack of direct response to any of the other proposed additions to the With respect to the "reporter" issue, I amend my proposal to eliminate the suggested implementation of I was reminded of a publication titled "Guide to Foreign and International Legal Citations," published by NYU's Journal of International Law and Politics. The guide surveys the citation practices of 45 jurisdictions. A perusal of the guide reveals that two things are relatively universal: (1) abbreviations are commonly used in legal citations; and (2) legal documents are routinely published in specific locations ( For me, it would seem a bit odd for a schema used for describing legal decisions to lack a mechanism for informing the reader of where that decision is published or where other decisions cited within the decision are published. If the intended users of this schema are not members of the legal profession, then such an omission might make sense. But if I am correct that members of the legal profession are the intended users of the schema, then we should ensure they have the ability to describe the relevant aspects of their documents. I have been reviewing ELI for the past week or so. I am curious why the European Case Law Identifier (ECLI) was not chosen as the inspiration for the Decision type? DCMI's bibo ontology also looks very promising. We could pull from there as well; they have lots of good ways to describe Decisions of various kinds. |
@MaxwellDAnderson thanks for your quick reply. I don't see any problem with extending the Regarding your comment on NYU's Guide to Foreign and International Legal Citations; if we look at the Bluebook page for the Netherlands you'd think that the Netherlands also cites their judicial decisions through reporters. However, you'd be mistaken as this is a bit misleading. Reporters were indeed a citation standard back in the day, but ECLI has since replaced them as the new citation standard to refer to judicial decisions while reporters are mostly referred to for their commentary on judicial decisions. This is true for most EU member states (see current implementation overview). Moreover, not every judicial decision is published in a reporter and European reporters are generally commercial with their content hidden behind a paywall. In contrast to common law jurisdictions where a judicial decision published outside certain official reporters might be regarded as 'unpublished' (impacting its value as a precedent before court), this distinction is not made by most civil law jurisdictions where judicial decision are treated as equal precedent whether they are published in reporters or not. Concluding, I do think that ECLI should be an inspiration for the |
@romjansen thank you for this additional background. I wholeheartedly agree that a URI and the ability to cite other other publications, such as reporters, certainly can, and should, co-exist. I think those two aspects of the proposed The I like the Additionally, there are other dispositions that I can think of that are not strictly tied to decisions, such as revocation, superseding, amending, continuing, supplementing, etc. It is also possible that dispositions of the same type will have a different scope, such as a decision that is only partially validated or invalidated. I am curious what your thoughts are on possibly replacing |
@romjansen -- I am not sure if there has been any movement on this issue, but I did put together this repository that contains an initial implementation of what this schema type might look like. It contains a heavily documented RDF file, as well as a documentation webpage generated by Protégé. Feel free to download and make changes to the RDF file or open a pull request! |
This issue is being nudged due to inactivity. |
Whereas there is a type for legislation, there currently is no type for decisions. This is unfortunate because public authorities, ranging from municipalities to regulatory agencies and the judiciary, are increasingly publishing their decisions online. Moreover, similar to the ELI initiative, the European Union is rolling out the ECLI standard for its (supra)national judicial decisions. Several national jurisdictions are also looking into further metadata standards, but these shouldn't be to different from what is already supported under Legislation and Creative Works.
Concluding; it would be nice if there was a Shema type 'decision' with subtypes such as 'administrative decision', 'judicial decision' and 'arbitral decision'.
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